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fix meeting logs and small issue in merchants.yml
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url: https://github.com/PsychicCat/monero-php
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- category: Tools
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merchants:
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+ - name: nestorgames
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+ url: http://www.nestorgames.com
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- name: nestorgames
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url: http://www.nestorgames.com
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- name: ForkGuard Network Monitoring
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url: http://forkguard.com
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- name: MoneroBase Price Charts and Tools
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layout: post
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title: Logs for the Kovri Dev Meeting Held on 2016-09-11
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summary: Brief review of what has been completed since last meeting, Kovri Logo, code & open tickets discussion
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tags: [dev diaries, i2p, crypto]**
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summary: Kovri Logo, code & open tickets discussion
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tags: [dev diaries, i2p, crypto]
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author: dEBRUYNE / fluffypony
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---
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@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ author: dEBRUYNE / fluffypony
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**\<lurker>** 146
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**\<fluffypony>** hyc: it's coz of Garlic Routing
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**\<Elli0t>** 88
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**\<MalMen>** for example "getthis" would bedificuld to understund with no "get_this", but i like "getThis" too, I think I got that from javascript
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**\<MalMen>** for example "getthis" would bedificuld to understund with no "get\_this", but i like "getThis" too, I think I got that from javascript
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**\<hyc>** yes, I see that, but ...
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**\<fluffypony>** MalMen: can you take it to PM with tewinget, or wait till after the Kovri meeting?
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**\<tewinget>** MalMen: if you want to discuss that, PM me, otherwise try to wait until the Kovri meeting concludes.
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@ -42,8 +42,8 @@ author: dEBRUYNE / fluffypony
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**\<fluffypony>** and yeah, the brand recognition aspect is +1
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**\<i2p-relay> {-guzzi}** #239
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**\<tooquick_4u>** #146
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**\<meeting-bot> [i2p-relay] {-moneromooo}** I kinda like https://images-contests.99static.com/wYofliD7HjSVmkBoYhGS4CyMeNc=/188x0:1464x1276/500x500/top/smart/99designs-contests-attachments/75/75384/attachment_75384769, the variants of https://images-contests.99static.com/Gs4VClupDwKJEGKvaX7I40TLckg=/0x0:1156x1156/500x500/top/smart/99designs-contests-
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**\<meeting-bot> attachments/75/75381/attachment_75381142
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**\<meeting-bot> [i2p-relay] {-moneromooo}** I kinda like https://images-contests.99static.com/wYofliD7HjSVmkBoYhGS4CyMeNc=/188x0:1464x1276/500x500/top/smart/99designs-contests-attachments/75/75384/attachment\_75384769, the variants of https://images-contests.99static.com/Gs4VClupDwKJEGKvaX7I40TLckg=/0x0:1156x1156/500x500/top/smart/99designs-contests-
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**\<meeting-bot>** attachments/75/75381/attachment\_75381142
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**\<tewinget>** wait, isn't 99designs basically spec-work?
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**\<meeting-bot> [i2p-relay] {-ArticMine}** Kovri logo Do we want a variant of the Monero logo or something entirely different?
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** But why get washed in with more corporatism? We're at a juncture to break some molds here.
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**\<fluffypony>** they are, moneromooo, but I don't think they'll be confused enough to care
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**\<fluffypony>** it's not like people make privacy decisions based on routing models :-P
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**\<ferretinjapan>** yeah i think the garlic just looks confusing.
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** So should we do a vote of "anything *not* 239"?
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** So should we do a vote of "anything \*not* 239"?
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**\<hyc>** yeah. it's close enough. several of the others leave me wondering WTH they are.
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**\<_Slack> <xmr_eric>** The one option I'm not seeing is a direct copy of the Monero (M). I did a quick mockup: https://i.imgur.com/8wIh8Hb.png
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Strong opinions on *not* 239?
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**\<\_Slack> <xmr\_eric>** The one option I'm not seeing is a direct copy of the Monero (M). I did a quick mockup: https://i.imgur.com/8wIh8Hb.png
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Strong opinions on \*not* 239?
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**\<meeting-bot> [i2p-relay] {-moneromooo}** Well... "I use kovri, that's a privacy program for that onion type thing"
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** How can we improve #239?
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**\<fluffypony>** otoh I don't think I've ever heard a non-technical person talk about onion routing, moneromooo
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**\<medusa_>** personally i also like 245, the green symbols strong roots
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**\<pero>** 239 needs a different font and some kerning
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**\<MalMen>** we can allways tell "we use garlic instead of union to keep vampires away from the network"
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**\<fluffypony>** xmr_eric: there were a bunch of those, like hundreds of them, we rejected them in favour of #239
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**\<fluffypony>** xmr\_eric: there were a bunch of those, like hundreds of them, we rejected them in favour of #239
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**\<meeting-bot> [i2p-relay] {-ArticMine}** 239 Possible confusion with Tor. Could be dicey from a trademark perspective
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**\<_Slack> <xmr_eric>** cool
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**\<\_Slack> <xmr\_eric>** cool
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**\<meeting-bot> [EinMByte]** #239 looks nice
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**\<meeting-bot> [EinMByte]** Don't think there would be trademark issues
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** medusa_ I like the logo but not so much the colour.
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**\<meeting-bot> [i2p-relay] {-moneromooo}** Then... we could superimpose: 239 with added arms on top of the monero M, trying to hide it :D
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**\<pero>** i think my the minimal pacmans from 88 and 81 arent bad either
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**\<fluffypony>** anonimal: what are your thoughts on the "connection to Monero" thing - do we want it to be more tightly coupled or not?
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**\<hyc>** then xmr_eric's would be fine
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**\<hyc>** then xmr\_eric's would be fine
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** fluffypony ferretinjapan lurker: if the artists can somehow come up with a better idea other than slapping a big K in the style of monero onto the garlic, then I'm open to new ideas
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**\<meeting-bot> [guzzi]** fluffypony i agree if there needs to be aconnection to monero that is important to discussion on 239
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**\<hyc>** or at least a starting point. maybe turn the circle background into the garlic
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Let's decide on 1 and see how we can improve it.
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**\<tewinget>** I think maybe since there are so many opinions we shelf this for now, make a shortlist of 10 or so, and discuss among just those at a later time.
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** I'm voting #239
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**\<meeting-bot> [guzzi] we ef have two camps here. use a letter like Monero logo or -- somethinge else00
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**\<meeting-bot> [guzzi]** we ef have two camps here. use a letter like Monero logo or -- somethinge else00
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**\<fluffypony>** we have 8 days to make a decision, tewinget
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**\<hyc>** shrink them down to 16x16 favicons, most of them will look like garbage
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**\<fluffypony>** tbh I kinda like #239 too
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**\<fluffypony>** also we can ALWAYS change it later
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**\<pero>** hyc except for 135 and 134
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**\<fluffypony>** not like we have a branding department to report to
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**\<pero>** i think tus_99 definitely has the best handle on the design
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**\<pero>** i think tus\_99 definitely has the best handle on the design
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**\<hyc>** ok, 135 isn't bad.
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**\<pero>** and squarepoint the best typography
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**\<fluffypony>** anonimal: as the CEO of Kovri (kidding) you get to decide, I think you've heard enough opinions, and we'll defer to you
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** fluffypony: thank you
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** #239 it is *but* we should work out font and see if artist can improve the idea.
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** #239 it is \*but* we should work out font and see if artist can improve the idea.
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**\<fluffypony>** absolutely
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**\<fluffypony>** I'll finalise the 99designs competition in the next couple of days, and give the artist final direction
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Who here had thoughts about kerning, etc.?
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**\<fluffypony>** and we can modify it from there
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok great
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** So, resolved with #239?
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**\<meeting-bot> [i2p-relay] {-ArticMine} I have to leave now
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**\<meeting-bot> [i2p-relay] {-ArticMine}** I have to leave now
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Thanks ArticMine
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**\<meeting-bot> [EinMByte]** anonimal: Yes, let's move on
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**\<fluffypony>** indeed
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**\<fluffypony>** anonimal: both
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**\<fluffypony>** can't think of anything else
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**\<fluffypony>** re: 33C3 I'll be putting a post up on the forum in the next little while so everyone knows what's potting
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**\<meeting-bot> * anonimal checking issues
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**\<meeting-bot>** anonimal checking issues
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, they've been milestone'd
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**\<fluffypony>** awesomesauce
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**\<fluffypony>** when shall we three meeting again? (to quote Macbeth)
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** (4. Code + ticket discussion / Q & A)
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**\<fluffypony>** nothing from my side
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**\<meeting-bot> [EinMByte]** So what I'm currently working (of the milestoned issues): #191, #312, #342
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**\<meeting-bot> [guzzi] i will keep working on coverety isues
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**\<meeting-bot>** [guzzi] i will keep working on coverety isues
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**\<meeting-bot> [EinMByte]** Will do #213 later
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**\<meeting-bot> [EinMByte]** For the memory leaks (and other memory problems): the ntcp branch has a couple of fixes
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**\<meeting-bot> [EinMByte]** Currently working on a (partial) fix of #342
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**\<meeting-bot> [EinMByte]** For #187 (NTCP core issues), the main thing left to fix is the inbound NTCP
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** I just don't assign myself in case someone else wants to grab something
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** EinMByte: yeah, running tcpdump against kovri --log-to-console 0 --v6 1 --enable-ssu 0
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**\<meeting-bot> * anonimal pasting
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**\<meeting-bot>** \* anonimal pasting
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**\<meeting-bot> [EinMByte]** Yes, and I'd ask everyone else wanting to help out to do the same
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** 19:42:20.974119 IP6 2001:0:9d38:6ab8:2c92:2e09:b8ee:e2d.59823 > me.11552: Flags [S], seq 1067814148, win 8192, options [mss 1220,nop,wscale 8,nop,nop,sackOK], length 0
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** 19:42:28.017709 IP6 2001:0:9d38:6ab8:2c92:2e09:b8ee:e2d.59823 > me.11552: Flags [S], seq 1067814148, win 8192, options [mss 1220,nop,nop,sackOK], length 0
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**\<meeting-bot> [EinMByte]** guzzi: Try this if you get bored with coverity issues
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Let's take mroe NTCP chat outside of the meeting since this is being logged
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**\<meeting-bot> [EinMByte]** (--v6 not necessary, just see if you get inbound traffic, and paste logs when you do)
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** *more
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** \*more
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Yes, I know, just happens to be the instance that is running
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**\<meeting-bot> [EinMByte]** ok
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** guzzi any questions about tickets, etc.?
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**\<fluffypony>** going once, going twice, sold!
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** 6. Confirm next meeting date/time
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**\<meeting-bot> [EinMByte]** What about the website, though?
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**\<meeting-bot> * anonimal backtracks to 5.
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**\<meeting-bot>** * anonimal backtracks to 5.
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**\<meeting-bot> [EinMByte]** (or did I just miss that)
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** fluffypony: do you have any details yet?
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**\<fluffypony>** EinMByte: I said that now that we're wrapping up the logo I can get back on the bandwagon with that
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** And it *will* be online by first release fluffypony, yes?
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** And it \*will\* be online by first release fluffypony, yes?
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**\<fluffypony>** absolutely
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**\<meeting-bot> [EinMByte]** Well, it was supposed to be done by today
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**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** lol, EinMByte cracking the whip
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**\<fluffypony>** Ok so tewinget let me ask about the backwards-compatible stub
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**\<fluffypony>** Coz obviously we still need a stub for those that insist on touching the daemon using old RPC
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**\<fluffypony>** Is that just a matter of refactoring it out of the daemon?
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**\<tewinget>** well...so *my* plan was to leave the old RPC in place until we decide "yea, that's for sure deprecated and gonna be removed now"
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**\<tewinget>** well...so \*my* plan was to leave the old RPC in place until we decide "yea, that's for sure deprecated and gonna be removed now"
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**\<fluffypony>** That's fine - I meant as a later exercise
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**\<fluffypony>** Just trying to gauge the amount of effort it's going to take
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**\<tewinget>** hmm, well, a wrapper around the old RPC to hook into the new wouldn't be *too* hard...
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**\<hyc>** so anyone mining testnet right now should stop
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**\<moneromooo>** Unless you want to test stuff.
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**\<iDunk>** i exported the raw blockchain up to 800499. that's before v3, right?
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**\<tewinget>** well that's not entirely necessary >**_>**
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**\<tewinget>** well that's not entirely necessary >\*\*\_>\*\*
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**\<moneromooo>** Yes.
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**\<iDunk>** and v4 is... ?
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**\<iDunk>** 802000 or so iirc ?
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