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tini2p meeting logs from 2019-03-14
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title: Overview and Logs for the tini2p Dev Meeting Held on 2019-03-14
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summary: Current project status, Roadmap, I2P proposal implementation, and miscellaneous
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tags: [dev diaries, i2p, crypto]
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author: el00ruobuob / oneiric
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# Logs
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**\<oneiric\_>** time to meet is almost here
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**\<oneiric\_>** thanks to everyone for attending/lurking
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**\<oneiric\_>** item 0: Greetings
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**\<Corklander>** Hey-o!
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**\<oneiric\_>** hiyo all
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**\<oneiric\_>** welcome Corklander, looks like it may just be us today again
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**\<oneiric\_>** item 1: Current project status / what's been done
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**\<oneiric\_>** have spent the last few weeks refactoring and implementing generic wrappers for ecies
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**\<oneiric\_>** went down a rabbit hole that took way longer thatn expected
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**\<oneiric\_>** than\*
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**\<oneiric\_>** in the middle of switching crypto++ for libsodium
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**\<oneiric\_>** last remaining piece is the AES impl, which will be replaced with tiny-aes
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**\<kinghat>** hi. lurking.
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**\<oneiric\_>** reddsa took a backburner spot, and i will refocus on it after necessary refactors
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**\<oneiric\_>** hi kinghat
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**\<oneiric\_>** should be finished with refactors in next few days, and will MR the changes on gitlab
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**\<oneiric\_>** will leave it up for ~1 week for review
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**\<oneiric\_>** other than that, been working on other housekeeping refactors, and attending i2p dev meetings
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**\<oneiric\_>** any questions/comments?
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**\<kinghat>** there were i2p dev meetings? were they public?
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**\<crim->** will this have an FFS/ICO ?
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**\<kinghat>** whoops. not i2p xmr related dev meetings.
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**\<oneiric\_>** yep, every week for #ls2 meetings discussing new leaseset2/netdb specs
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**\<oneiric\_>** lol the greatest ICO crim-
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**\<oneiric\_>** with all the premines
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**\<crim->** wheres the old project?
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**\<oneiric\_>** which old project?
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**\<crim->** there was a bid FFS on kvri?
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**\<crim->** is this replacing that?
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**\<oneiric\_>** nop, not from me
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**\<oneiric\_>** i'm still up in the air on an ffs
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**\<crim->** okay, continue
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**\<crim->** well, the last one run with the money
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**\<crim->** or so I've heard
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**\<crim->** people might be afraid for another FFS
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**\<crim->** atleast me
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**\<oneiric\_>** idk about all that. my last ffs got a little borked with overpromising/miscommunication, which has hopefully been resolved
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**\<oneiric\_>** if you or anyone would like to discuss it, i'm open
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**\<kinghat>** im just here for the tini2p 😄
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**\<Corklander>** Same. Other projects are for other meetings, IMO.
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**\<oneiric\_>** its my understanding that i fairly addressed regarding milestone completion, maybe you think differently crim-?
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**\<oneiric\_>** regardless, i want people to feel they can approach me openly about funding questions
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**\<Corklander>** Ah. +1
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**\<oneiric\_>** not here to swindle anyone, and i think my track record proves that
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**\<oneiric\_>** any other questions about item 1?
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**\<kinghat>** my brain has already forgotten about the many different privacy network implementations that are in dev atm since the kovri mess.
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**\<oneiric\_>** true, i2pd is still actively developed, along with java i2p, and i2p-zero packaging
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**\<oneiric\_>** and there is ire of course :) the rust impl
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**\<oneiric\_>** there may be more
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**\<oneiric\_>** so onto item 2: Short-term road map
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**\<oneiric\_>** so will continue with refactors + reddsa/encls2 this week
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**\<oneiric\_>** hopefully should be ready to test within the next 1-2 weeks
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**\<oneiric\_>** after that will shift focus back to ecies and i2np for router-to-router communication
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**\<oneiric\_>** hopefully the generic wrappers i've written will be flexible enough for whatever crypto primitives are settled on
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**\<oneiric\_>** leaseset2 and proposal 123 afaiu are still the main focus for i2p project, though focus maybe be shifting to 144
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**\<oneiric\_>** don't quote me on that
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**\<oneiric\_>** hopefully should have router-to-router communication within the next month or so
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**\<oneiric\_>** at least ready for local testnet / vms
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**\<oneiric\_>** also need to work on some docs / other meta housekeeping, and separating impl into ipp files
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**\<oneiric\_>** any questions/comments on short-term plans?
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**\<Corklander>** For the testnet plans, do you have specific objectives?
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**\<oneiric\_>** yeah, i'd like to build something people can spin up locally with no outside networking
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**\<Corklander>** As in: 1) must complete 'hello world' round trip. 2) must have memory leaks below 100MB/day, etc?
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**\<oneiric\_>** oh
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**\<oneiric\_>** tbh, haven't thought that far into it. but can come up with some metrics for automated testnet runs
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**\<oneiric\_>** CI is still on my todo, so thanks for the reminder
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**\<Corklander>** I'm asking because I'm not sure where to separate unit and integration tests for a network-layer project.
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**\<oneiric\_>** currently, i have separated the independently testable stuff into unit\_tests
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**\<oneiric\_>** stuff that requires networking goes in net\_tests
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**\<Corklander>** Ah, right. Well that makes sense to my brain now. :)
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**\<oneiric\_>** so far, haven't seen the need for a separate integration\_test, but will if the need arises
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**\<oneiric\_>** had a slow-test dir for a bit, but it was only for elgamal, and only when prime search was turned on
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**\<oneiric\_>** now there's no elgamal at all so !!!!! ::)
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**\<oneiric\_>** also zzz brought up that it wasn't obvious the library is header-only, so people may think nothing has been done
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**\<oneiric\_>** all of the impl is currently in .h files
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**\<oneiric\_>** i will be splitting impl into .ipp files, but the library is still intended to be header-only
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**\<oneiric\_>** will write a reference router in .cc, but library user's are encouraged to just include the headers without needing a separate bin for the router
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**\<oneiric\_>** users'\*
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**\<oneiric\_>** users?
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**\<oneiric\_>** anyway
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**\<oneiric\_>** if no more on 2, item 3: I2P proposal implementation (123, 144)
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**\<oneiric\_>** not much has changed, str4d added a more fleshed-out reddsa spec
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**\<oneiric\_>** there is currently some discussion over exactly how to do aplha generation and key blinding
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**\<oneiric\_>** there will be another meeting in #ls2 on i2prc this upcoming monday, iirc
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**\<oneiric\_>** 144 is the ecies-x25519-ratchet proposal
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**\<oneiric\_>** any questions on tini2p impl plans or questions in general re: the new spec proposals?
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**\<oneiric\_>** cool deal, looks like we'll be ending early
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**\<oneiric\_>** last item: Confirm next meeting time
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**\<oneiric\_>** same time in two weeks?
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**\<kinghat>** sure. gotta jet. see ya!
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**\<Corklander>** Sure
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**\<oneiric\_>** l8er kinghat, thanks for lurkin
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**\<oneiric\_>** ok so 2019-03-28 at 18:00 UTC
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**\<oneiric\_>** meeting over, thanks all
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**\<Corklander>** Yea!
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**\<wowario>** thanks oneiric\_
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**\<oneiric\_>** thanks for the input Corklander
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**\<Corklander>** Sure!
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**\<oneiric\_>** np wowario
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**\<Corklander>** Good work, btw
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**\<oneiric\_>** thanks man
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