Overview and Logs for the Dev Meeting Held on 2019-10-20
Development status, 0.15 release discussion, Network upgrade naming, and miscellaneous
dev diaries
core
crypto
el00ruobuob / rehrar
Logs
<rehrar> Alright everyone. 17 UTC. <rehrar> Meeting time. <rehrar> 1. Greetings <hyc> hey <rbrunner> Hi <kinghat> \o/ <rehrar> small crowd today? <sech1> hi <rehrar> well, perhaps people will trickle in. <rehrar> Two weeks ago I was at HCPP, so I wasn't able to be here for a meeting. Was there one? <dEBRUYNE> I am here <rbrunner> No, neither 1 week ago <dEBRUYNE> I think we decided to postpone it <rehrar> ok, so <rehrar> 2. What's been completed since the previous meeting (a month ago) <hyc> a lot of PRs got merged <hyc> has the v12 forkheight been merged? <moneromooo> You can now sync off pruned nodes. <moneromooo> Not yet. <dEBRUYNE> I think that will probably be on the last merge list before we branch <dEBRUYNE> ^ rehrar <moneromooo> vtnerd__: do you intend your latest network changes to go in for the fork ? <vtnerd__> the one that is up for review, yes that would be the hope (provided its determined to be ready) <vtnerd__> its not needed for the hardfork, so if you feel it should wait, then my recommendation would be to wait for a point release <vtnerd__> the problem is that re-testing some of your recommendations are likely to take up time before the upcoming branch, but I will try <moneromooo> I think that and pay-for-service are the only large ones left. <moneromooo> Oh, and the defer tx verification one. Not huge either but a bit substantial. <rehrar> are either of those expected to be in? <moneromooo> Hopefully all of them. <moneromooo> pay-for-service goes next, I've kept it waiting for long enough. <hyc> sounds good <rbrunner> Did I get that right that a PR is waiting in that batch that will cause testnet to reorg back to some much earlier blockheight? <hyc> not that I've seen <hyc> ? <rbrunner> Maybe I misunderstood then, while reading something up here <moneromooo> I said so, but I was wrong. The rules are different, but actually coincide in practice. <rbrunner> Surprising <rbrunner> All the better <moneromooo> They'll stop conciding whe nthe block size shoots up. <rbrunner> So we only need some seed nodes working for testnet ... caugh ... caugh <moneromooo> gingeropolous added one, that'll be merged soon. <rbrunner> Nice <hyc> dEBRUYNE: didn't you get hold of fluffypony regarding seed nodes? <dEBRUYNE> He posted an update here 1-2 days ago <dEBRUYNE> <fluffypony> re: testnet nodes, I've been having some issues with the boxes I run, but there are other people running testnet nodes besides me <hyc> ah, I missed that. ok <rbrunner> Especially nice that stagenet gets a third seed node, with the only two so far probably just sitting side-by-side and offering zero redundancy <rbrunner> well, not zero, but you get what I mean ... <rehrar> Anything else of note to discuss on what's been done this past month? <hyc> sounds like not <rehrar> Alrighty. <rehrar> 3. Fork related things <rehrar> is there anything that is needed, desired, wanted, or otherwise needs to be discussed regarding the upcoming fork. <tevador> FYI, there will be probably RandomX 1.1.5 with some OpenBSD-related fixes <tevador> but best if 1.1.4 is merged first (1.1.5 doesn't need any changes in monero code) <hyc> that's PR#5980 for v1.1.4 <tevador> yes <rehrar> ok, no other fork related topics? If not we can move on. <rehrar> Zipping through this meeting. <rehrar> is anyone from GUI here? dsc_ selsta <selsta> yes we only had bug fixes recently <selsta> GUI is ready for v0.15 <rehrar> ok <rehrar> 4. Any Ticket/PR related questions? <rbrunner> By the way, is there already a final name for the release? I could use it for adjusting the Windows installer. Is it now crab something? <hyc> carbon crab? <hyc> I don't recall a final name decision <rbrunner> Yeah, that one <rehrar> Where was the discussion? <rbrunner> Me neither, that's why I ask for sure <rehrar> We can make a decision here. <rbrunner> I think there was some chatter in a Reddit thread once <hyc> I think some names got tossed around in this channel a few weeks ago. but nothing decided. <moneromooo> camelopardalis is satifyingly complicated. <rehrar> you guys want to decide now? Or not urgent? <hyc> oh yeah, that was my suggestion <moneromooo> I think pony likes to leave it for a reddit vote where people can't break things <hyc> we can do it now, there seems to be enough people present <hyc> ah <dEBRUYNE> Pony usually makes a Github thread and links that to reddit iirc <rbrunner> I would also prefer a Reddit thread, more fun for the fans, so to say <dEBRUYNE> (re: name) <rbrunner> But why not soon, e.g. tomorrow <tevador> does the 24th Oct code freeze still apply? <tevador> (it should) <hyc> there was a mention of name on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/d884zt/preliminary_information_thread_regarding_the/f2zfmr1/ <hyc> but pretty sure that was just relaying a suggestion from here on IRC <rehrar> I can make a meta issue and link to it on the Reddit <hyc> cool <rbrunner> Yeah that was me, but I forgot where I got that Carbon Crab <rbrunner> Yes, do go ahead <dEBRUYNE> rehrar: should I ask pony first if he wants to uphold the tradition? <hyc> (I have the previous discussion in chat logs, was in this channel a couple weeks ago) <moneromooo> Callisto alliterates nicely too fwiw. <rehrar> sure <rbrunner> Hmm, yes indeed <rbrunner> "Crab" is very short <rehrar> Is there anything else to discuss besides the naming? <rehrar> Kind of a free for all time. <hyc> that's always the hardest problem in computing... <rbrunner> So it looks surprisingly good for this code-freeze <rehrar> it's because we extended it out an extra month? <rehrar> Alright, well if there's nothing else to discuss, then we can go ahead and break. Doughnuts are on the table on your way out.